Son to Pir Manzur
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Son to Pir Manzur

To begin answering this allegation, one should first understand how prophecies work. Allah States:


هُوَ الَّذِي أَنْزَلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ مِنْهُ آيَاتٌ مُحْكَمَاتٌ هُنَّ أُمُّ الْكِتَابِ وَأُخَرُ مُتَشَابِهَاتٌ ۖ فَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ فِي قُلُوبِهِمْ زَيْغٌ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ مَا تَشَابَهَ مِنْهُ ابْتِغَاءَ الْفِتْنَةِ وَابْتِغَاءَ تَأْوِيلِهِ ۗ وَمَا يَعْلَمُ تَأْوِيلَهُ إِلَّا اللَّهُ ۗ وَالرَّاسِخُونَ فِي الْعِلْمِ يَقُولُونَ آمَنَّا بِهِ كُلٌّ مِنْ عِنْدِ رَبِّنَا ۗ وَمَا يَذَّكَّرُ إِلَّا أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ {8}


He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book; in it there are verses that are decisive in meaning — they are the basis of the Book — and there are others that are susceptible of different interpretations. But those in whose hearts is perversity pursue such thereof as are susceptible of different interpretations, seeking discord and seeking wrong interpretation  of it. And none knows itsright interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge; they say, ‘We believe in it; the whole is from our Lord.’ — And none heed except those gifted with understanding. —(Chapter 3 Verse 8)


There are some prophecies which are precise and some are unspecific. The deviated ones always turn to the unspecigic prophecies and this is exactly what the anti Ahmadis do as well. It is not something new, as the anti Islamists in general have been using this tactic for the past 1400 years. We wonder if the non Ahmadi Muslims have read the details about this prophecy. We are told three important points in the prophecy. A boy would be born, he would have many names and that there would be a sign of an earthquake when he is born. If one claims this prophecy failed, none of this should have happened. Even if one part is fulfilled, the anti Ahmadis should look into the prophecy as the others would also be fulfilled.


Ahmadas has stated:


“It is the law of the God that in the prophecies there are allegoric parts and there are fundamental parts .and sometime the prophecies are totally allegoric type. and ignorant people just see the allegoric part and deny the truth of the prophecy but truth is , if the prophecy is allegoric in nature (means clearly have not been told to whom it concerns ) and does not fulfill in accordance with the thinking of the prophet then one should not say that prophecy have not fulfilled , but one should only say that the view of the prophet have not fulfilled. (Ruhani Khazain volume 22 page 589)


He also states:


“One should not care about interpretation of the prophecies which are made  before the fulfillment of the prophecies. One should consider it  an error of judgment because the real time of interpretation is when the prophecy is fulfilled ” (Ruhani Khazain volume 21, page 111)


Its clear that prophecies, visions and dreams are to be interpreted. We have talked about this subject in depth throughout the book, and one can refer to the answer of Dreams are not to be taken literally. Now the question which arises is that who is this son and where and when was he born? Ahmadas said ths son would be born in the house of Manzur Muhammad but this was his own interpretation of the prophecy. Allah used the word Miyan Manzur Muhammad but prophecies are not always applied to the exact person and this name was in reality referring to Ahmadas himself. The son was no other than the Promised Son Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmadra and the person Manzur Muhammad was referring to was Ahmadas. The birth was a spiritual birth rather than a physical birth.


What the anti Ahmadi Muslims fail to mention and hide from the people is this statement of Ahmadas:


I saw (in my dream) that a son was born to Manzur Muhammad and he asked what name should be given him. Then my mind moved from the dream towards the reception of revelation and I was informed: Bashirud-Daulah The Promised Messiahas said: I supplicate for a large number of people and do not know to whom the word Manzur Muhammad refers. It might be that the word indicates that a son would be born to Miyań Manzur Muhammad whose birth might bring with it prosperity and wealth; or it might be that the boy himself might rise high and be wealthy. But I cannot say for certain when that boy would be born. God has not specified any time. It might be soon or Allah the Almighty may delay it for several years. (Badr, vol. 2, no. 8, February 23, 1906, p. 2 and al-Hakam, vol. 10, no. 7, February 24, 1906, p. 1)


It is clear that Ahmadas stated that the prophecy could mean that one whom Muhammadsaw looks with favour which is the meaning of Manzur Muhammad. The earthquake referred to the world war which was a war that shook the world right after Hazrat Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmoodra became the khalifa. Now someone might say that how can this prophecy be fulfilled in another person? Well if one reads Tehrikh-e-Khamees there is a vision of the Prophet Muhammadsaw where he saw Aseed Bin Asias become Muslim but in reality he died as a disbeliever, and it was his son who accepted Islam which fulfilled the dream. Another hadith states:


وَحَدَّثَنِي أَبُو الطَّاهِرِ، أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ وَهْبٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ الْحَارِثِ، عَنْ أَبِي يُونُسَ، مَوْلَى أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ أَنَّهُ حَدَّثَهُ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنَّهُ قَالَ ‏ “‏ نُصِرْتُ بِالرُّعْبِ عَلَى الْعَدُوِّ وَأُوتِيتُ جَوَامِعَ الْكَلِمِ وَبَيْنَمَا أَنَا نَائِمٌ أُتِيتُ بِمَفَاتِيحِ خَزَائِنِ الأَرْضِ فَوُضِعَتْ فِي يَدَىَّ ‏”‏ ‏.‏


Abu Huraira reported:The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: I have been helped by terror (in the heart of the enemy) ; I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; and while I was asleep I was brought the keys of the treasures of the earth which were placed in my hand.(Sahih Muslim Hadith #523 e)


In reality, these treasures were acqired when conquering the earth which happened years after the Holy Prophet Muhammadsaw died, by his followers. Hence, this prophecy was fulfilled in the followers of the Prophetsaw rather than him. Ahmadas states:


” Twenty five or twenty six years ago I saw in a dream that someone was writing my name. He wrote half of it in Arabic and half in English. Migration is also a characteristic of Prophets but some of the dreams of a Prophet are fulfilled through him in his own time, and others are fulfilled through a descendant or a follower of his. For instance, the Holy Prophet, on whom be the peace and blessings of Allah, was given the keys of the treasuries of Caesar and Chosroes and these countries were conquered in the time of Hadrat ‘Umarra” (Badr, Vol 1, No.23, September 7, 1905, Page 2, And Al-Hakam, Volume 9, No.32, September 10, 1905, Page 3)


Now it is also clear that according to the Qur’an, a spiritual birth is possible. Alah States:


يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اسْتَجِيبُوا لِلَّهِ وَلِلرَّسُولِ إِذَا دَعَاكُمْ لِمَا يُحْيِيكُمْ ۖ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ يَحُولُ بَيْنَ الْمَرْءِ وَقَلْبِهِ وَأَنَّهُ إِلَيْهِ تُحْشَرُونَ{25}


O ye who believe! respond to Allah, and the Messenger when he calls you that he may give you life, and know that Allah comes in between a man and his heart, and that He it is unto Whom you shall be gathered.(Chapter 8 Verse 25)


Ahmadas states:


“The truth of the matter is that a Prophet is human as well, and it is not bad that he might make some error in judgment but he is not kept on his error and at sometime he is told about his mistake. And prophecies of the prophet should be seen from the side of their being supernatural .If a prophecy does not fulfill in one way , but fulfills in some other way and  the fundamental part of prophecy i.e. being supernatural  , is present in the other way of fulfillment and after the fulfillment every sane person can understand that this was the real meaning of the prophecy which have been fully shown by the completion of the prophecy Then it will not hurt the greatness of the prophecy at all. Raising objection on it is dishonesty and stubbornness.” ( Ruhani Khazain Volume: 21, Page: 250, Baraheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol. 5)


Some ask as to why the earthquake did not happen right away and was postponed but they forget that Ahmadas himself said this would happen. He states:


” Minor earthquakes continue to occur but the severe one has been postponed, though I am unable to say for how long.” (Badr, vol. 2, no. 14, April 5, 1906, p. 2 and Badr, vol. 2, no. 15, April 12, 1906, p. 2 and al-Hakam, vol. 10, no. 11, March 31, 1906, p. 1)




” Thereafter, I prayed that the appearance of this severe earthquake may be delayed somewhat. The revelation from Allah the Almighty mentions that supplication and then provides the response to it. As He has said:


That is, Allah has accepted this supplication and has postponed the earthquake to another time. This revelation was published in Badr and al-Hakam about four months ago. Since the earthquake—the example of Judgment Day—has been delayed, it was also necessary that the birth of the boy be also delayed. Accordingly, a daughter was born to Pir Manzur Muhammad on Tuesday, July 17, 1906. This is a Sign of the acceptance of the supplication and the truthfulness of the divine revelation that had been published four months before the daughter was born. However, earthquakes of a smaller magnitude must continue to occur, but it is imperative that the earthquake of the example of the Judgment Day be postponed till that boy is born. Bear in mind that it is a Sign of the mercy of Allah that by creating a daughter, He comforted us regarding the predicted affliction, that is, the earthquake of the example of the Judgment Day. It has been postponed in accordance with:


If the boy had been born, there would have been great apprehension and fear at the occurrence of every earthquake in fear that the appointed time has come and the postponement would have not been believed. But now the postponement has been tied to the fulfilment of a condition.” (Haqiqatul-Wahi, Page 100, Footnote, Ruhani Khazain, Volume 22, Page 103 footnote)


This is the spiritual birth which took place of the khalifa which was indeed a great sign and the earthquake or disaster of the example of the Judgement Day was the world war which took place right after. Ahmadas clearly stated that the prophecy could be interpreted differently according to the names and its clear that it was indeed fulfilled. All of these qualities are in Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmadatba and it is possible for a prophet to make a mistake in his interpretation of Ijtihad.


There is a further second revelation which proves that this referred to Hazrat Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmadra. In another vision Ahmadas was shown:


Dream: “When I received the last mentioned revelation, I saw that someone said: This is the Sign of the predicted earthquake. When I looked up, I saw that something had fallen from the top of the tent which had been set up near the garden. What had fallen down was the top of the center pole of the tent. When I picked it up, I found that it was a nose-pin which is an ornament that women wear at their noses. It was wrapped in a piece of paper. It passed through my mind that it belonged to my wife and had been lost sometime back. It was now found from a height, and that this was the Sign of the earthquake.” (Badr, vol. 1, no. 8, May 25, 1905, p. 2 and al-Hakam, vol. 9, no. 19, May 31, 1905, p. 1)


The revelation is telling us that a top of the tent will fall down. The interpretation of the tent refers to the Ahmadiyya Jamaat and the death of the Caliph. Ahmadas picked up the tent and found a nose pin wrapped in paper. Ahmadas then said, it belonged to my wife and now it has returned to her. This is the sign of the earthquake this refers to. Both prophecies refer to the Promised Sonra. In the year of 1914 the frst Khalifa Hazrat Hakim Malulvi Nooruddinra passed away and then Hazrat Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmadra was chosen by Allah to be the Khalifa. This was his new spiritual birth and with this new spiritual birth the earthquake was also associated and fulfilled. Some main points we have to understand are that the birth of the son itself was a sign of the earthquake. The earhquake prophecy was extremely detailed and had many prophecies within it. The destruction of the czar was one of the sign of the earthquake as well which took place in 1914 because of the world war. The world war started in 1914, and the spiritual birth of the son was in the same year. The prophecy was clearly fulfilled in its way, despite a mistake of ijtahad which is normal and occurs with prophets as well.